Roll on the Line. The time has come

[greg16394]

I don't know you at all but this just seems like a terrible idea. Theres so many ways this can go wrong (run bad, backoffs/barrings, variance, burnout). Are you just going to go back to your job when you get backed off/barred from every PA and AC store in 3 months? If you want a real chance at making this work you absolutely MUST start learning AP skills beyond card counting. Card counting is the worst way to make money in a casino, and its not even close. There are a lot of easier/more profitable/lower variance/less heat ways to win.

I have a much larger bankroll, no wife/kids, no debt, and much broader set of gambling skills, yet the idea of having to grind casinos for a living still makes me feel uneasy. Might be because I can't fathom the idea of spending that much time in a casino, they are the worst places on earth haha.

Impressive one. Could you just list those AP skills, which is easier than CC ?

[cheaptrix]

is your wife supportive of your decision to play full-time? (don't answer that, ask yourself that question)
hopefully you have a great support group with your family because you will need it. it takes more than knowledge of a game to make it playing cards for a living imo.
when cards are your only income the swings will test your mentality... i wish you the best! i couldn't do it, i've tried playing poker full-time.
it's tough (at least for me) to stay focused through the downswings.

[muffdiver]

Impressive one. Could you just list those AP skills, which is easier than CC ?

I'm guessing that some/most are illegal (cheating)!

[njrich]

I'm guessing that some/most are illegal (cheating)!

or just reading a book and then they think they can do it or teach others to do it.

[njrich]

Spreading 20:1 and camping at a PA casino? Please give me a break. Pure bull****.

[Hsiaodi]

A good act can get you there. But 2 to 4 times a week at the same store..... 4 to 6 hrs at a time. Mmmmm

[njrich]

No act will get you there.
You can not spread like that without drawing heat in PA. I don't care if your Robert Deniro.

[ZenKinG]

Theres 3 shifts for each store, just make notes of what shifts you go in a notepad or excel and spread it around. Play a different shift/different store every time you want to play again. Keep mixing it around and you can last a while with just 3-4 stores if you know what you're doing. If you can get 4 stores, that's 12 shifts you can attack. Mix and match as best you can and it should be hard to detect you. I say stick to 5 hour sessions max, if you're pure wonging 2-3 hours max. Also I recommend you mix in a 1 hour session where you are completely aggressive with an aggressive spread, but plan that shift out accordingly. good luck

[The Buzzard]

Theres 3 shifts for each store, just make notes of what shifts you go in a notepad or excel and spread it around. Play a different shift/different store every time you want to play again. Keep mixing it around and you can last a while with just 3-4 stores if you know what you're doing. If you can get 4 stores, that's 12 shifts you can attack. Mix and match as best you can and it should be hard to detect you. I say stick to 5 hour sessions max, if you're pure wonging 2-3 hours max. Also I recommend you mix in a 1 hour session where you are completely aggressive with an aggressive spread, but plan that shift out accordingly. good luck

This is great advice-I don't WANT to stay at the same place for long periods of time but was surprised to see they appear oblivious, no matter what I bet or how long I stay. Now longevity is more important to me and I appreciate the advice- This is what I am going to try and do, just as you mentioned- thx. My backcounting days are over, thankfully, and I will only being wonging out.

[The Buzzard]

He he.. let me ignore the aggro dude for a moment..I was mortified to see I said i was using REKO. What is that I don't even remember; I have not read that chapter in KO in ages. Something about no play variations and just jumping bets to break even. What I meant was TKO from color of blackjack where additional opportunities are sniffed out earlier in the shoe based on the running count. What a disgrace- attacking the casinos with REKO- rookie KO.
Anyway- your attack on me complete horsesht. I play at the same casino every day I have off and every weekend night. I'm there at least 3 days a week. I camp at least 6 hours and usually show up about 4pm and leave between 1am and many times around 5am.
I was spreading from $10-two hands of 250 last weekend; starting the next shoe with 2 red chips. Granted I normally play 10- two hands of $125 but I frequently bet much larger and nobody cares. I have been doing this since the casino opened.
Clearly I will not continue the giant spread as this casino is valuable to me but the point is you are talking to me like I have this "idea" to spread 1-20 and am going to test it out.
Don't get me wrong I expect some heat eventually but so what? If I'm not pushing it then I'm leaving $ on the table.
The pit boss is usually some donk that was dealing 3 weeks ago-it's completely wide open. I didn't come here hoping to get NJRich's approval on a 1-20 spread. This spread is easily attainable. With four casinos (not including the ones a lil bit further I will be hitting) I will see each place once or twice a week. Are you suggesting I'm a joke because I want a 1-20 spread at PA casinos? Your a joke if your spreading less. I couldn't imagine a better place to spread large- You deal with the 8 decks and you are rewarded with a very high tolerance for action at these casinos.
I'm not a noob here-don't call me a joke for wanting a large spread for long hours- if i couldn't get that I wouldn't even be trying.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

I have played all of PA, from North to South.

Surveillance paranoia is extreme everywhere.

Show a cumulative win and you'll soon be 86'd

[muffdiver]

I agree with moo21. Your bankroll isn't large enough. The wife and kids are a HUGE factor.

[Dog Hand]

I agree with moo21. Your bankroll isn't large enough. The wife and kids are a HUGE factor.

So you think the OP should sell his wife & kids? That'd eliminate that factor AND increase his BR simultaneously

Dog Hand