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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander View Post
    I can understand that but been doing this local all over for several months more so I’m two spots but also know lots of staff well so that most likely helps
    There’s something you need to understand. The goal of the house is to empty your wallet. They don’t give a shit about you. They are not your friends. They don’t give a flying fuck if you’ve blown the mortgage and food money.

    Any dialogue between myself and critters is insincere from either one to the other. It is only proffered by either one to the other to simulate the appearance of friendly dialogue. It is false. It is a masquerade. It means nothing.

    Play the game, do what you have to - but pay heed to what I say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    There’s something you need to understand. The goal of the house is to empty your wallet. They don’t give a shit about you. They are not your friends. They don’t give a flying fuck if you’ve blown the mortgage and food money.

    Any dialogue between myself and critters is insincere from either one to the other. It is only proffered by either one to the other to simulate the appearance of friendly dialogue. It is false. It is a masquerade. It means nothing.

    Play the game, do what you have to - but pay heed to what I say.
    Real good truthful post Freighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Real good truthful post Freighter.
    Je suis d'accord

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    OP...if you are buying in for $800 and then making $10 bets. trust us you have already made a monumental mistake. Your time there is very limited. You are already being watched very closely...and the second you begin winning any significant amount, well you will be backed off, if not sooner.

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    (Maybe I should open a new thread for the following post)

    Question from a newbie regarding US casino play (only been in three small European casinos so far, only to get deterred by entrance fees, having to show identity card, few BJ tables, bad rules and CSMs there):

    - where should I buy-in (cashier's cage or BJ table)?
    - where should I buy-off (cashier or table)?
    Should I color up at the table and go to cashier at another day / shift for not being tracked so easily?
    (Especially in case should I have won a substantial amount of chips at a table)?

    - How do you transport your chips inside the casino? Using a plastic bag like in movie "21", a duffle bag like in Ben Mezrich's book, a smaller leather or fabric sac, your trouser or jacket pockets or even an acrylic 100 chip rack? (Sometimes I see people palming their chips in their hands but this seems to work only with maybe 5 or 10 chips).
    Last edited by PinkChip; 08-07-2019 at 04:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkChip View Post
    Should I color up at the table and go to cashier at another day / shift for not being tracked so easily?
    At one of CEC store they use the RFID chips to track where the chips go so they know how much you have with you without color up, even you "hamstering" during play at table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cc12b View Post
    At one of CEC store they use the RFID chips to track where the chips go so they know how much you have with you without color up, even you "hamstering" during play at table.
    I read of this RFID technique in conjunction with container shipping about 10 years ago, but am not sure how many casinos are already using them, and for what chip denominations. Sounds evil, like the MindPlay tables. Recently I saw some MindPlay decks of cards on the internet and that there are barcodes printed on the cards which seem to be only visible in UV light. Sort of espionage or CSI stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    There’s something you need to understand. The goal of the house is to empty your wallet. They don’t give a shit about you. They are not your friends. They don’t give a flying fuck if you’ve blown the mortgage and food money.

    Any dialogue between myself and critters is insincere from either one to the other. It is only proffered by either one to the other to simulate the appearance of friendly dialogue. It is false. It is a masquerade. It means nothing.

    Play the game, do what you have to - but pay heed to what I say.
    Play 3 days a week at this shop up 16k there since May and yes play rated. Now spreading from $10 to 2 X $200. Still haven’t used cvcx but intend to do so very soon. I’m sure if I am fortunate to get 50k or so winner my time will run out in my opinion but so far so good. I have trimmed the ramp to eliminate 75 and 125 going to 50 at t2 then 100 at t4 then 200 at t5 and up. I have a good amount of hours in at this point so hopefully the bankroll continues to build.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander View Post
    Play 3 days a week at this shop up 16k there since May and yes play rated. Now spreading from $10 to 2 X $200. Still haven’t used cvcx but intend to do so very soon. I’m sure if I am fortunate to get 50k or so winner my time will run out in my opinion but so far so good. I have trimmed the ramp to eliminate 75 and 125 going to 50 at t2 then 100 at t4 then 200 at t5 and up. I have a good amount of hours in at this point so hopefully the bankroll continues to build.


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    Assuming hi lo or equivalent. I like your spunk. Assuming .5 he, your +3 bet should be your +4 bet. Can’t argue with your success to date, though I would make 3 suggestions.

    1. Your ramp is not quite optimal. Get cvcx sooner than later. It is a source of excellent information and will answer many questions for you.
    2. Find out if your home store is a database participant. If so, really slow your play down, and stop playing there oreferably. WHEN they report you, and they will, they will also report your name, and probably your license plate number.
    3. Any new stores, play anonymously.

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