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[BlackAce]

Well, not "no way".

[QUOTE=Blitzkrieg;177833]The way blackjack is dealt in the casinos your right, but playing the cards down to the last one or last few a player can determine with great accuracy what the next or last

BlackAce,

HiLo is generally NOT used in Running Count (RC) mode, but rather in True Count (TC) mode.

To calculate the TC, you divide the RC by the number of unseen decks. As an example, say you're playing an 8D game, and at the start of a round two decks have already been used (and, thus, are in the discard rack to the dealer's right). This means that six decks are still in the shoe. If the RC is +8, then the TC is +8/6 = +1.33, which is generally "floored" to an integer value of +1.


Ok so far your the person who's helped me the most with clear answers. To get better I need guidence and as I go, and questions answered. I can give u better input so I can give me more accurate help. What I usually play is 6 deck game. I usually do back-counting. And Wongout when the count is bad. I UNDERSTAND, I Divide the RC By the Decks that are left. Most of the time their is 3 decks left. Their for If the RC is +9 then TC is +9/3= +3 I'm I right?

Should I then Raise my bet ?
Do I have a small edge over the house?

If you'd prefer not to have to deal with division, I'd recommend that you consider switching from HiLo to a new strategy: reKO. Its advantage for you is that it's used in RC mode.

The only two changes you need to make are to use an Initial Running Count (IRC) different than zero (in fact, the IRC is -27 for an 8D game) and to assign a tag of +1 to the 7's.

All the information you need to get started is available at this URL:

https://qfit.com/REKOStrategy.htm

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand

[BlackAce]

Well, not "no way".

ok I am looking into KO. 6 deck shoe starts at -20. Are the counts +1 still or +2?

The way blackjack is dealt in the casinos your right, but playing the cards down to the last one or last few a player can determine with great accuracy what the next or last card is.

Better players than I have responded to you. There advice is very good. However, if you are not likely to wait to get better before you play, here are my answers.

1. If a running count is +8, you stand on a 13 against a dealer 4.
2. If you sit down on a running count of +9 and you have 4 or more decks to be dealt, you should only bet slightly more (like $20 if your minimum bet is $10. The fewer the decks that are left to be dealt, the more you would bet. Remember that there is no guarantee that you will win the hand and you must have enough dollars in your pocket in case you have to double or split multiple times. How much you bet depends upon how much you have on hand to play.
3. Yes, either you or the dealer could get on a big streak however, if you get a BLackjack, you win more than does the dealer and you can split and double down and win those hands because ZiF the dealer has a bad hand, he is more likely to bust.
4. No.
5. Again, it depends upon a number of things because we need to know how many decks are left to be dealt with a running count of +9.

I think what he mean is that when you get a blackjack you get pay 3 to 2. If a dealer get a blackjack you only lose your original bet or push if you don't take insurance or even money. Using Hi-lo in running count mode is not as strong. If you are going to use a running count strategy consider KO/REKO, Red Seven or UBZII.

[Bodarc]

Well, not "no way".

Norm, are you speaking of computers, advanced play such as ST or HC, a flashing dealer, dealing down to the last few cards etc? I was speaking to a beginning player in a normal game being dealt a random shuffle with today's cuts who thinks because a few small cards have come out the next card has to be large.

Please explain.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

BlackAce,

Do yourself a meaningful favor and avoid K.O.

Be smart and begin with a strong count like ZEN or Hi-Opt II.

[Norm]

BlackAce,

Do yourself a meaningful favor and avoid K.O.

Be smart and begin with a strong count like ZEN or Hi-Opt II.

I disagree with this. Sounds like KO is better for you. At least at this point.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

Norm,

Each of us are entitled to our opinions.

I hold that not learning a weak count

to begin with is the most efficient route

to success, and that is the goal, nest pas ?

[Norm]

Ace-Five is a weak count. OPP is a weak count. KO is NOT a weak count.

[nasha]

BlackAce,

Do yourself a meaningful favor and avoid K.O.

Be smart and begin with a strong count like ZEN or Hi-Opt II.

What a terrible piece of advice.

[BJGenius007]

Ace-Five is a weak count. OPP is a weak count. KO is NOT a weak count.

Although KO is not a weak count, people who learn and use only KO will not know why the counting works. I recommend people learn Hi-Lo or Hi-Opt I first, then choose KO or Zen/AO2/Hi-Opt II for their forever counting system. Choose the former if they want the simplicity, or the latter for accuracy.

[BlackAce]

Ace-Five is a weak count. OPP is a weak count. KO is NOT a weak count.

okay I have a couple questions

[BlackAce]

Ace-Five is a weak count. OPP is a weak count. KO is NOT a weak count.

I start with -20?
What number will I end up with after I count down a deck?
Do I start raising my bet after +3?

[Norm]

You do what the strategy says to do.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

BlackAce,

I am trying hard to be thoughtful and polite, but you are misunderstanding some VERY basic facts of Blackjack.

The House Advantage varies a great deal [from roughly 0.2% to 0.7%] because of different rules and different

numbers of decks -- a "one size fits all" approach will fail miserably in reference to your question:

"Do I start raising my bet after +3?"

You want to go and risk your money in a casino without understanding the most basic facts of the game.

We all wish you luck. Apparently you think that playing well enough to win in the long run is an easy matter.