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    Gambler to ap

    Opinions on a hardcore degenerate gambler trying to do ap play specially bj. Will his brain support in long term.

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    Fully trained as a card counter

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    IMO, the chances of success are low. Discipline is essential and that's something lacking in a degen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    IMO, the chances of success are low. Discipline is essential and that's something lacking in a degen.
    I would say exactly this !
    G Man

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    Hmmmmmm. It takes an awful lot of discipline to succeed as an AP. I'm not aware of any "hardcore degenerate gamblers" who later transitioned to being successful APs. You can do everything right for weeks or even months and then start steaming during a losing streak and within an hour or two - poof! - there goes your bankroll. I can't see it working.

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    Nah there’s no such thing as discipline here it’s just whether you recognise mathematics or not

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    I wrote everything related.

    You are absolutely right,
    I played for around 600hr , as i mentioned i was a gambler before so i was ok with high ror in starting, good variance helped me alot i 4 timed my bankroll, not lying i won straight for first 15 sessions. But then had couple of loosing sessions but i was ok. But one day i couldnot loose a single bet all my dd sp were working all day, won around 2700$ my max win in one day. But next day negative variance hit i lost 3000$ even though i was up in total my gambler took over and lost my whole bankroll in like 1 hr. I started playing baccarat and high limit bj. Then i gambled for few weeks from pay cheque to paycheque.
    But finally took control over myself never gambled straight for 3 months.( before everyday). Practice practice practice for 3 months i can confidentally say i am perfect now. But last week i got the urgue to gamble again lost 100 deposited 100 again trying to winn back at a point i was 1k down. I deposited 1 k doubled 2 bets won 4k. And left. Gambling tooks over again.

    I literally know and feel like i can never quit gambling untill i stay connected to gambling in some way. Learning counting in black jack atleast helped me not to gamble for 5 moneths. But before learning i was gambling anytime possible. And will continue for lifetime if i try to just stop going to casino and suppress it.
    Winning through counting cards atleast releases some dopamine to help me quit gambling.

    Now i know all the math behind all these games i think thousand times more than before if i get urgue to game. Only way i see to quit gambling is through advantage play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preetjatt123 View Post
    I wrote everything related.

    You are absolutely right,
    I played for around 600hr , as i mentioned i was a gambler before so i was ok with high ror in starting, good variance helped me alot i 4 timed my bankroll, not lying i won straight for first 15 sessions. But then had couple of loosing sessions but i was ok. But one day i couldnot loose a single bet all my dd sp were working all day, won around 2700$ my max win in one day. But next day negative variance hit i lost 3000$ even though i was up in total my gambler took over and lost my whole bankroll in like 1 hr. I started playing baccarat and high limit bj. Then i gambled for few weeks from pay cheque to paycheque.
    But finally took control over myself never gambled straight for 3 months.( before everyday). Practice practice practice for 3 months i can confidentally say i am perfect now. But last week i got the urgue to gamble again lost 100 deposited 100 again trying to winn back at a point i was 1k down. I deposited 1 k doubled 2 bets won 4k. And left. Gambling tooks over again.

    I literally know and feel like i can never quit gambling untill i stay connected to gambling in some way. Learning counting in black jack atleast helped me not to gamble for 5 moneths. But before learning i was gambling anytime possible. And will continue for lifetime if i try to just stop going to casino and suppress it.
    Winning through counting cards atleast releases some dopamine to help me quit gambling.

    Now i know all the math behind all these games i think thousand times more than before if i get urgue to game. Only way i see to quit gambling is through advantage play.
    It's not advantage play if you lose control and steam away your entire bankroll.
    The Cash Cow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preetjatt123 View Post
    Opinions on a hardcore degenerate gambler trying to do ap play specially bj. Will his brain support in long term.
    Not something you should take a risk on.

    Most of compulsive gambling is subconscious. Knowing how to count doesn't help you much with that.

    Not saying it is impossible to turn into an ap just very difficult and risky.

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    Do you only play blackjack currently? Or are you also playing games with a guaranteed house edge/gambling on sports? If it's the latter, being an AP in blackjack will do nothing for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ubiquitin View Post
    Do you only play blackjack currently? Or are you also playing games with a guaranteed house edge/gambling on sports? If it's the latter, being an AP in blackjack will do nothing for you.
    Right now i just play blackjack, lost my most of money as a gambler on table games so i am interested in blackjack only rn not doing any sports betting.

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    Discipline may be the most important talent that a successful AP has. There have been tons of people with incredible talent who had some level of deficiency in their discipline, and it ruined them. Ken Uston and Stu Ungar are examples to study.
    The Cash Cow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moo321 View Post
    Discipline may be the most important talent that a successful AP has. There have been tons of people with incredible talent who had some level of deficiency in their discipline, and it ruined them. Ken Uston and Stu Ungar are examples to study.
    read about stu ungar but cannot find anything about ken uston where it says he failed. every article and video shares his skills and succesfull stories.

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