ID requests at cage

[Green21]

I’m looking for some advice from the more seasoned guys here on how to handle id requests at the cage. I happen to have a “young face” (been told this many times) so I often get id’d when cashing out. Not always as it seems some casinos will only ask for id if I’m cashing out over $1k. Even $950 they won’t ask, usually. Now if I try to cash out say $900 then a little later in the same day try to cash out another $900 or whatever and do this a couple times would I risk a ‘suspicious activity report’ or even be accused of structuring? Like I said I look young so I’m always id’d at the front door anyway so is it even worth my time/effort trying to avoid this at the cage? This particular casino has my name obviously but I’m just thinking about the future casinos on my list. And I really don’t want to make a scene at the cage, the last thing I want to do is bring attention to myself...

Thanks for any input guys much appreciated.

[Meistro123]

So long as the total transactions don't exceed 10,000 you can't really be accused of structuring imo (I am not a lawyer). Anyway, if you are making large cash deposits at your bank that exceed 10k that sort of defeats the structuring charge as well, even if you were doing small transactions exceeding 10k with the casino.

[JBourne]

Consider that they may have policy to ask for ID above a certain amount just to manage the risk of missing CTR limits. $3k a threshold when that starts to become more predictable. Anything less is probably trolling for IDs.

I had an interesting moment at a "riverboat" place last fall. After playing for an hour and losing a little I went to the cashier and for $400 the woman asked me for my ID. I said "no thanks" and she just shrugged and paid me. It may be worth testing the response.

[Green21]

Yea I haven’t been making any bank deposits recently and I have tried the “no thanks” a lot and the response is “well you look well under 35 so we need the id.” I guess it is what it is for younger looking people... I’ll have to just try to stay under their ‘house limits’ and hope they don’t ask for id.

[Meistro123]

Structuring is generally more like if you keep doing a lot of 8k or 9k transactions, or transactions that cumulatively add up to tens of thousands of dollars, imo. Again, not a lawyer.

[porcelain]

Like Green21 said, I just say "No thanks" in a nice way. Treat them like the check out people at Home Depot asking for your phone number before they ring you up. Just some bullshit they have to ask but they probably don't want to. Something like, "Thank you, but I can't handle anymore junk mail", or "I don't want to have all my info out there for all those telemarketers. They call me 4 times a day already and I am thinking of changing my number." Something that is relatable for the cashier as to why I don't want to give ID. Smile. Non-confrontational. Only once did I have them insist (on a $700 cash out...) and then call security, who just asked the cashier over the phone my name (I gave them your name ) and they approved it with no ID.

I have seen no problems personally in cashing out small amounts around $1k multiple times a day. A lot of gamblers will do this as they take breaks to go eat or whatever.

[Counting_Is_Fun]

When I got tired of one Indian casino asking for ID at the cage on small amounts...I sent an email to the state regulators, who forwarded it on to the casino. My email subject line said Possible Casino Rule Violations...(probably got a lot of eyeballs on it) and said something like I obviously look older than 40. And younger looking people are already required to show ID at the door or table. The result was the casino immediately stopped asking for ID at the cage for small amounts. Might be worth a try.

[ShipTheCookies]

State regulators have no say how Indian casinos handle those issues. They can steal all of your chips and you have absolutely no recourse except tribal court. Good luck there!!

[Counting_Is_Fun]

State regulators have no say how Indian casinos handle those issues. They can steal all of your chips and you have absolutely no recourse except tribal court. Good luck there!!

Maybe reread my post above guy?

[ZeeBabar]

Maybe reread my post above guy?

Your post #7 says “I sent an email to the state regulators..”. then claim your action resulted in changes and then you deny it on post #9. Teens can be so confusing.

[ShipTheCookies]

Maybe reread my post above guy?

I stand by my statement.

I'm gonna lay it straight to everyone here. AP'ing, or gambling in general, in an Indian owned casino, you are playing with fire!

[Counting_Is_Fun]

Your post #7 says “I sent an email to the state regulators..”. then claim your action resulted in changes and then you deny it on post #9. Teens can be so confusing.

I think you might be starting to go senile guy...maybe reread the thread again.

[Counting_Is_Fun]

I stand by my statement.

I'm gonna lay it straight to everyone here. AP'ing, or gambling in general, in an Indian owned casino, you are playing with fire!

The thread and nobody was talking about getting your chips confiscated etc. Maybe reread the thread and try to understand what people have posted.